Recent conversations with friends about web communities got me thinking about the arguments against open dialog. Initially, these paragraphs were going to find a home in my ongoing “Best Practices” guide to religious web communities, but the essay turned out to be strong enough to stand on its own. Enjoy.
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Like bonsai trees and gardens, good conversations must be pruned and cleared of weeds if they are expected to remain healthy. A continual–and valid–concern about opening up your web community to the Internet is the possiblity of abusive language. Like diseased and self-destructive aberrations in plant-life, abusive language has the potential to poison the whole conversation. This is, of course, the biggest challenge to open, democratic language: what do we do with unwanted speech?
Before delving too deeply into the question, let’s take a moment to sort out some feelings on the topic. Dialog is a scary thing. Conversation with close friends and family over matters of spiritual importance can tighten your stomach and can soak your palms with sweat, let alone spiritual discussion with a potential untold number of strangers. Dialog leaves you open to learning about diverse points of view–even to being proved wrong. For many, this idea strikes to the very core of who they are.
Some congregations don’t want to know about the “them,” “out there.” They don’t want to hear dissenting opinions because they might have to rethink positions long cemented years ago. These congregations are only interested in hearing the same, flaccid messages they’ve become used to over the years; the only conversations they’re interested in having are ones that can be controlled. Inviting speech that might be harmful or opposing to their views is about the furthest thing from their minds–these things interfere with building a “safe” livelihood where the word “ministry” has become a horribly disfigured synonym for “moralizing.” If this is your congregation, stop reading now. This essay is not for you. Go build a website with your doctrinal statement and potluck dates instead–there’s really not much more you have to say.
Still reading? Good. Unfortunately, churches like the one described in the previous paragraph do exist, so there’s reason for such disclaimer. When we consider dialog, we must go back to the reasoning behind our motivations. The goal in facilitating true, authentic conversations with people is an expression of how much we care about them. People, as I’ve noted previously, want to know that their opinions and who they are actually matter to us. In dialog–as is always the case when it comes to loving people–there are risks to be taken. Do you want to matter to people of this generation? Do you want to express to them that they are important to you? That their concern and pain and spiritual interest really means something? Then, provide opportunities to talk with them and not at them.
A helpful analogy to your concerns is to think about taking your congregation into an urban setting for an open-air service. There are risks involved. You may meet people who are flat-out offensive (think of the demoniac in Mark 5). You may encounter personalities that haven’t been sanitized and childproofed of their offensive speech and behavior patterns. But, just as with the analogous open-air service, taking risks to provide opportunities for dialog and community in the “hinternet” shows that you care. That you’re aware of the dangers, but you’re willing to try to make it work anyway. Perhaps moreover, it shows that you believe in God. People take notice of such things.
Now, for the empirical data. Our Story, my personal family weblog, will round its first year of publication this November. Over the course of this past year, this site has become a functional home for discussion of things that matter to me. It’s “in the wild” and, thanks to some foresight in building the site and some trendy technical discussion, drives no trivial amont of traffic–in the ballpark of several hundred visitors on a daily basis. Of course, the number of people that actually comment on the site is dwarfed in comparison to the number of visitors: we’ve received a little over 550 comments over the course of a year. In the entire lifetime of the site, only a handful (no more than ten, and probably closer to five) of the comments have been removed for content that I had classified as “unwanted.” That accounts for less than 1% of the comments received. Of that handful, only one comment was removed because of a link to pornographic content. That accounts for less than two-tenths of a percent of the total comments.
What does that all mean? Well, in short, it means that the concern about unwanted speech, while warranted, becomes a straw man when used as an excuse to avoid conversation. The overwhelming majority of people who have commented on Our Story have actually wanted to be part of the conversation. The remainder were looking to make a fast buck, but were quickly thwarted in their efforts. And, when I say “quicky,” I mean it: offensive comments were removed from the site within a couple of hours, and all of them were removed before I had to be notified of their presence.
There are strategies to minimize the opportunity for people to inject unwanted speech into your site. The most important of these is to set ground rules. Be explicit about the circumstances under which comments will be removed (for example, see our content policy). Then, assign responsibility to a capable few to moderate the discussion. You may notice that, as your site continues to grow and develop, a small group of faithful devotees will frequent your site and leave a majority of the comments. Seek out a couple of trustworthy people in that group and ask for their help with moderation. They’re already visiting the site, anyway–give them the opportunity to serve. Some site policies close commenting on older content after a period of time to help minimize the need to police the whole site. This is quite acceptable.
A final word of caution. I noted that only a handful of comments were removed for “unwanted” content. This does not, however, include comments that were critical of my writing. Nor does it include opposing viewpoints or even comments accusing me of being a big idiot at times. Those comments stayed. Dialog with integrity means allowing people to disagree with what you have to say. This may challenge your–and your readers’–opinions and beliefs. Let it. Your commitment to transparency adds weight and validity to what you have to say. Your site will be noticed in that you make a commitment to your content by accepting both praise and criticism. You will earn your readers’ respect.
Don’t just talk to people. Converse with them. Your sincere desire to hear what they have to say will make a difference.
h4. Postscript
In rereading this post and discussing it with Scott Greider (yes, that Scott Greider), I realized that readers may confuse my intent in instructing fear-driven congregations to build websites with only their “doctrinal statement and potluck dates.” If you read carefully, I’m not actually denigrating the practice of brochure-ware websites. I mean, if you got me alone in a room for fifteen minutes, I might admit to you that I think they’re almost totally useless, but I wouldn’t belittle churches that simply don’t have the resources to devote to a full, community-oriented web presence.
Rather, it’s churches that pride themselves primarily on their moral and cultural distinctions from secularism that get my ire up. When the church wastes her time by drawing lines between people who listen to Pearl Jam versus people who listen to Third Day, then she has utterly and completely lost touch with what it is to care deeply–first for one another, then for the world. Such congregations don’t even have anything meaningful to say from the pulpit–why go to the trouble of building a website?
So, wait, you mean a weather box won’t help, you big idiot?
Man, you should write for church internet magazines and stuff- like The Ooze or Antithesis or something. I’ll wholeheartedly agree with you in the context of a personal blog with community in mind. When it comes to chuch sites, I’m a bit leery. Why? Well, because transparancey cannot be forced upon anybody. In making a church site blog with this level of transparency, you may inadvertantly alienate those “weaker” brothers in a congregation, causing them to introvert rather than transparentify (ok, that was a word I made up. Hey, our wonderful Commander-in-Chief can do it, why can’t I? [no sracasm intended]).
I’d wonder about how someone who is not “ready” to step into a realm of commentable articles (which mostly are comments based on opinion) would handle someone being brutally honest. What if they don’t get it and think to themselves “oh, this guys being honest, and I really don’t like him so I’ll be honest back”- the original posting person would have had the intent of being transparent while the responadant would have the intent of malice. There must be misddle ground so we don’t wind up like this http://biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=1COR+8&language=english&version=NASB&showfn=on&showxref=on
I need to point out that Christ himself held things back from those who were not His closest of friends on this Earth. Some things were reserved for only his closest friends (I.E. – the transfiguration [to only 3 disciples] http://biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=MATT+17&language=english&version=NASB&showfn=on&showxref=on , the explaination of the seeds parable http://biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=MATT+13&language=english&version=NASB&showfn=on&showxref=on , etc.). I’m not saying the church should stay in a little “moralizing shell”, just that 100% transparency to 100% of the people 100% of the time is not advisable due to the varying levels of maturity in a congregation. If a couple has serious marital problems and the husband posts a comment about it [being a knuckleheaded male- we men all are knuckleheads sometimes sometimes], that transparency is hurtful and destructive to the marital community.
But I digress to your suggestions of moderate moderation (HA! I like that phrase!). Some conments and some transparencies are inappropriate and should be moderated (for example , the husband mentioned before. His comment should be removed, and he should be advised to take that issue up between his wife, himself, God, and possibly some exceptionally close friends [or even a pastor]). There are varying levels of openess. I’m trying to understand which is appropriate for a large church web community (such as Bethlehem), since the church is still mainly driven by small groups within the larger congregation. Should each small group have a password protected web community? This way only the closest friends could be there and be 100% transparent, knowing the maturity of the other members within the small group… it’s a thought to ponder I guess… Still unsure about that though.
But do you see my point? What is the appropriate middle ground? The internet is almost the whole worlds community… how does a web community handle that excessive level of viewpoints and maturities and malices and loves? Not everyone is going to understand it.
I think a web community can only be a suppliment to a real community, not a true community in and of itself. There is certainly some merit in being A LIGHT unto the world, not holding back the Spirit of God from your life will yield to “the overflowing of your heart” onto articles and comments. This is favorable. Heck, that’s what the writers of the Bible did! They “blogged” (or rather logged) their hearts (reflecting God’s heart- or even at times speaking God’s heart [the prophets]) into a fully accessable book. Not everyone’s heart is yet at where the prophets’ and aposles’ was/is (I’m sure they’re dancin’ in Heaven). That being the case, how then shall the web community in question exsist?
Darin’s HFG site will be a good example I think.
Jai,
When I had used the word “transparency,” I’d only meant it in the context of accountability to people of differing values and beliefs, and not at all in the context of personal one-to-one accountability. In other words, if a church is going to commit to taking feedback in response to their sermons, essays, poetry and so on, then they had better commit to taking the good, bad and the ugly–rather than looking to moderate discussions to make it look like everyone agrees with them. Does that make sense?
Personal one-to-one accountability (a term that is getting way too much mileage in regards to personal relationships, I should note in passing) should always /only/ happen between people. When I insist on “open” dialog, I’m not insisting that everyone post all of their dirty little secrets on an open forum (such as the marital strife you’d used as an example)–anyone with an ounce of common sense would know that this kind of behavior isn’t just destructive, it’s flat-out stupid. No, the church is made of relationships and, as you noted, web communitiy is supplemental to those relationships, not substitutional.
My vision for the web community is a forum to wrestle with ideas–the sovereignty of God, ways to help the poor, the unity and diversity of the church, the power of language, and so on. It should /not/ be considered a broadcast medium to air one’s petty grievances. In fact, that would be a good thing to note in the “ground rules” I had mentioned earlier in this post. On second thought, though, I would be a bit more willing to give people the benefit of the doubt and hold off on creating such rules until the need presented itself.
Which, oddly enough, brings me full circle to my point… Different perspectives yeild different responces- sometimes maybe inappropriate. My perspective, or implied definition, on the word “transparency” made me reply in the manner in which I did. 750 SAT verbal is a blessing and curse sometimes
. I take these things at their literal face value, which would probably make me a really good newspaper editor huh
? Anyway, this whole hypothetical web suppliment to true community will only be truely understood if it happens and is studied. I know you’re willing to try it and pray on it and hope for the best possible outcome for the edification of the church comminity! Barvo Ken. I hope that someday, this kind of suppliment will be a great asset to the people of the church (espcially those too elderly or bedridden to attend church service and the community’s various other relationship building functions [small groups, the ever popular pot-luck dinner, etc.].
And… em… what does she do with those who put Third Day and Pearljam on the same compilation and throw it in their car CD player?… I’m just wondering cause, well…
Ken,
Although I’m a little afraid to forward what I consider to be good church website examples due to your fairly high standards, I’ll risk it.
http://www.citypres.org
Scott
I’d like to send you more links. If you don’t want me to, let me know.
Scott–go for it.
Here’s one of mine:
http://www.theooze.com
Not so much a “bricks & mortar” church as an online web community…Get an account, browse around, and let me know what you think…
K,
I recommended this church to my parents to check out, and I did notice they have commenting on at least one section of their site:
http://www.fortworthpca.org/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabindex=0&tabid=30
Pez
Someone please tell the people at the Ooze http://www.theooze.com/ that yellow is not meant to be a dominant color! PLEASE! That’s a great site with a decent layout, but that color has got to go- I leave as soon as I get there because the lack of contrast is unbearable.
K,
I just came across this site from our denomination (The PCA) which is blog style. I thought you might dig it:
http://www2.pcanews.com/editorial_opinion/monthly_umpired_debate/monthly_umpired_debate.html
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